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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Cookie-cutter Obstetrics&#8221; by September Favorites &#171; Birth a Miracle Services</title>
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		<dc:creator>September Favorites &#171; Birth a Miracle Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cookie Cutter Obstetrics by Birth Sense [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Does &#8220;Natural&#8221; Mean Safe? by Marcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for writing this!!  It seems so odd to me that people who are so skeptical of any sort of medicine or drug, will take herbs or supplements or other natural remedies with little to no evidence behind them, assuming that since it&#039;s natural it must be fine and healthy.  I thank you for your balanced, rational stance on these topics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing this!!  It seems so odd to me that people who are so skeptical of any sort of medicine or drug, will take herbs or supplements or other natural remedies with little to no evidence behind them, assuming that since it&#8217;s natural it must be fine and healthy.  I thank you for your balanced, rational stance on these topics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does &#8220;Natural&#8221; Mean Safe? by Birth Sense</title>
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		<dc:creator>Birth Sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mainstream literature will often discount any practice that is done outside of a monitored, hospital setting.  Yes, of course nipple stimulation could cause tetanic contractions (a contraction that lasts too long without relaxing.  So can Pitocin.  What do we do when Pitocin causes tetanic contractions?  Turn it down or off.  What do we do if nipple stimulation causes tetanic contractions?  Stop doing nipple stimulation.  The difference is that nipple stimulation will produce your body&#039;s own oxytocin.  If you follow the guidelines of an experienced person monitoring the baby and not stimulating contractions more frequently than three in a 10 minutes period, this can be done safely.  Again, I don&#039;t believe this should ever be done just because a woman is tired of being pregnant and wants to get labor going.  There should be clear medical need for an induction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mainstream literature will often discount any practice that is done outside of a monitored, hospital setting.  Yes, of course nipple stimulation could cause tetanic contractions (a contraction that lasts too long without relaxing.  So can Pitocin.  What do we do when Pitocin causes tetanic contractions?  Turn it down or off.  What do we do if nipple stimulation causes tetanic contractions?  Stop doing nipple stimulation.  The difference is that nipple stimulation will produce your body&#8217;s own oxytocin.  If you follow the guidelines of an experienced person monitoring the baby and not stimulating contractions more frequently than three in a 10 minutes period, this can be done safely.  Again, I don&#8217;t believe this should ever be done just because a woman is tired of being pregnant and wants to get labor going.  There should be clear medical need for an induction.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does &#8220;Natural&#8221; Mean Safe? by Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, if you read some mainstream literature on inducing labor it will often say do NOT do nipple stimulation without monitoring because it can cause tetanic contractions. ??
Your experiences??

I successfully used nipple stim to get labor going with my last baby. We AROM&#039;d at 4PM, we were inducing due to a hx of pre-eclampsia and rising BP&#039;s. I had some piddling contractions for the next hour. I sent my husband to get some dinner, sat on the birth ball with my head on a pillow on the bed, put my ipod on and started some nipple stimulation. I had a good contraction within 5 minutes and followed up with a few more over the next 10. I stopped after 15 minutes and by that point my body kicked into gear and I was in active labor and had my baby 2 1/2 hours later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, if you read some mainstream literature on inducing labor it will often say do NOT do nipple stimulation without monitoring because it can cause tetanic contractions. ??<br />
Your experiences??</p>
<p>I successfully used nipple stim to get labor going with my last baby. We AROM&#8217;d at 4PM, we were inducing due to a hx of pre-eclampsia and rising BP&#8217;s. I had some piddling contractions for the next hour. I sent my husband to get some dinner, sat on the birth ball with my head on a pillow on the bed, put my ipod on and started some nipple stimulation. I had a good contraction within 5 minutes and followed up with a few more over the next 10. I stopped after 15 minutes and by that point my body kicked into gear and I was in active labor and had my baby 2 1/2 hours later.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Minimizing Negative Effects of Interventions:  I&#8217;m Overdue! by Susan Peterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about black cohosh, or a combination of blue and black cohosh? 

All of my 9 babies except one were born within a few days of my due date, which I usually was computing from a known date of conception due to fertility charting. (For purposes of trying to avoid conception; I was blessed with never having to do anything to encourage it!)  

I had a C section with my first born in 1973, and VBACs for all the rest. The fourth and later were born at home.  

With my sixth, I was, I thought, 11 days overdue.  My doctor told me that they really didn&#039;t like you to be more than two weeks overdue; he might stretch that a bit with non stress tests and blood tests for placental functioning(something called estradiol? ) , but not more than a few days.  He said that it wasn&#039;t really considered safe to use pitocin on a mother who had had a C section.  

So I felt that I was faced with, produce this baby or have another C section. I had read about cohosh in some birthing book or other, and I got some &#039;black cohosh tea&#039; from the health food store.  I started drinking it on Friday afternoon, which happened to be Good Friday.  I made it to church for Good Friday, although I was already having mild contractions.  I kept drinking the tea whenever the contractions slowed down.  There was no question of my going to church for the Easter vigil on Saturday night.  I was very tired, still having a labor that kept slowing down until I drank more of that awful tea which tasted like dirt.    As we got into the small hours of Sunday morning, towards 3 am, I sat on the edge of my bed discouraged, and thought,  if another day dawns on this labor I&#039;m going to have to go to the hospital.   Contractions had suddenly stopped again.  I stood up,  I think feeling as if I had to go to the bathroom, and suddenly realized I was pushing.  I grabbed a blanket, put it under me, squatted down, and my baby was born.   I was totally astonished.   

She didn&#039;t look postmature at all, in fact she was the earliest looking of any of my babies.  The doctor who came afterwards to examine me agreed with me that she looked early, not late.    All I can think is that I got pregnant and lost the pregnancy very early, or for some reason thought I was pregnant, and so stopped charting,  and that I was a whole month off on my dates.  Sonograms weren&#039;t very common in those days, only if something wrong was suspected.  All my babies were large, most ten pounds or more.  This one was 9, not really small, but smaller than my usual.  Covered with vernix, which my babies usually were not.    

So if I was really two weeks early rather than two weeks late,  cohosh managed to make me deliver even though I wasn&#039;t really ready to.  Believe me, I never would have done this without the threat of C section hanging over my head.  I hadn&#039;t reached that &quot;I can&#039;t stand to be pregnant one more day&quot;  place at all. 

But this would make me think that cohosh is effective.  I used to read more about it , and much less lately.  Has someone found out something negative about it?  

Just curious,
Susan Peterson

PSI also had a friend whose 8th baby I was helping her have.  She had a long long prodromal labor.  One capsule of cohosh threw her into active labor in 20 minutes.   Another indication of its effectiveness to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about black cohosh, or a combination of blue and black cohosh? </p>
<p>All of my 9 babies except one were born within a few days of my due date, which I usually was computing from a known date of conception due to fertility charting. (For purposes of trying to avoid conception; I was blessed with never having to do anything to encourage it!)  </p>
<p>I had a C section with my first born in 1973, and VBACs for all the rest. The fourth and later were born at home.  </p>
<p>With my sixth, I was, I thought, 11 days overdue.  My doctor told me that they really didn&#8217;t like you to be more than two weeks overdue; he might stretch that a bit with non stress tests and blood tests for placental functioning(something called estradiol? ) , but not more than a few days.  He said that it wasn&#8217;t really considered safe to use pitocin on a mother who had had a C section.  </p>
<p>So I felt that I was faced with, produce this baby or have another C section. I had read about cohosh in some birthing book or other, and I got some &#8216;black cohosh tea&#8217; from the health food store.  I started drinking it on Friday afternoon, which happened to be Good Friday.  I made it to church for Good Friday, although I was already having mild contractions.  I kept drinking the tea whenever the contractions slowed down.  There was no question of my going to church for the Easter vigil on Saturday night.  I was very tired, still having a labor that kept slowing down until I drank more of that awful tea which tasted like dirt.    As we got into the small hours of Sunday morning, towards 3 am, I sat on the edge of my bed discouraged, and thought,  if another day dawns on this labor I&#8217;m going to have to go to the hospital.   Contractions had suddenly stopped again.  I stood up,  I think feeling as if I had to go to the bathroom, and suddenly realized I was pushing.  I grabbed a blanket, put it under me, squatted down, and my baby was born.   I was totally astonished.   </p>
<p>She didn&#8217;t look postmature at all, in fact she was the earliest looking of any of my babies.  The doctor who came afterwards to examine me agreed with me that she looked early, not late.    All I can think is that I got pregnant and lost the pregnancy very early, or for some reason thought I was pregnant, and so stopped charting,  and that I was a whole month off on my dates.  Sonograms weren&#8217;t very common in those days, only if something wrong was suspected.  All my babies were large, most ten pounds or more.  This one was 9, not really small, but smaller than my usual.  Covered with vernix, which my babies usually were not.    </p>
<p>So if I was really two weeks early rather than two weeks late,  cohosh managed to make me deliver even though I wasn&#8217;t really ready to.  Believe me, I never would have done this without the threat of C section hanging over my head.  I hadn&#8217;t reached that &#8220;I can&#8217;t stand to be pregnant one more day&#8221;  place at all. </p>
<p>But this would make me think that cohosh is effective.  I used to read more about it , and much less lately.  Has someone found out something negative about it?  </p>
<p>Just curious,<br />
Susan Peterson</p>
<p>PSI also had a friend whose 8th baby I was helping her have.  She had a long long prodromal labor.  One capsule of cohosh threw her into active labor in 20 minutes.   Another indication of its effectiveness to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In Labor With Twins, She Walked Out of Hospital by Sheridan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheridan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for her for walking out of the hospital!  What a wonderful care provider she has.  They ARE out there!  I always tell moms, contact your local doulas and CBE to find supportive care providers in your area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for her for walking out of the hospital!  What a wonderful care provider she has.  They ARE out there!  I always tell moms, contact your local doulas and CBE to find supportive care providers in your area.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In Labor With Twins, She Walked Out of Hospital by Olivia Van Buren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olivia Van Buren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done foe being so courageous, just walking out when you were told you were being prepped for the OR. That must have taken some guts! Your OB sound awesome - for an OB. 

Olivia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done foe being so courageous, just walking out when you were told you were being prepped for the OR. That must have taken some guts! Your OB sound awesome &#8211; for an OB. </p>
<p>Olivia</p>
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		<title>Comment on Birth Sense List by Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to recommend Dr. Stephen Guy and his practice in Dayton, Ohio.  He works with 3 midwives and 1 other physician.  They deliver at Miami Valley Hospital (which contains the Family Beginnings Natural Birth Center.)  We&#039;ve been to their office twice (I&#039;m currently 28 weeks, switched practices @ 25)  and we love them!  Despite having Lupus they have told me repeatedly there&#039;s no reason I can&#039;t attempt a normal birth and they&#039;ll &quot;treat me as normal until something proves otherwise.&quot;  My former doc wanted additional ultrasounds and NSTs starting at 32 weeks &quot;just in case.&quot;  I saw where that was going and immediately started researching other options.  I feel so lucky to have been given Dr. Guy&#039;s name.  He&#039;s actually the director of the birth center, so I feel totally at ease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to recommend Dr. Stephen Guy and his practice in Dayton, Ohio.  He works with 3 midwives and 1 other physician.  They deliver at Miami Valley Hospital (which contains the Family Beginnings Natural Birth Center.)  We&#8217;ve been to their office twice (I&#8217;m currently 28 weeks, switched practices @ 25)  and we love them!  Despite having Lupus they have told me repeatedly there&#8217;s no reason I can&#8217;t attempt a normal birth and they&#8217;ll &#8220;treat me as normal until something proves otherwise.&#8221;  My former doc wanted additional ultrasounds and NSTs starting at 32 weeks &#8220;just in case.&#8221;  I saw where that was going and immediately started researching other options.  I feel so lucky to have been given Dr. Guy&#8217;s name.  He&#8217;s actually the director of the birth center, so I feel totally at ease.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In Labor With Twins, She Walked Out of Hospital by Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 03:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a specific place you&#039;d like your recommendations sent?  I would love to suggest the practice I just started seeing and the hospital - Miami Valley in Dayton, Ohio.  Thanks for sharing that story.  I wish more women could be that brave and educated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a specific place you&#8217;d like your recommendations sent?  I would love to suggest the practice I just started seeing and the hospital &#8211; Miami Valley in Dayton, Ohio.  Thanks for sharing that story.  I wish more women could be that brave and educated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In Labor With Twins, She Walked Out of Hospital by canoe chick</title>
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		<dc:creator>canoe chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a gorgeous story! I hope she keeps telling it loud and proud - women need to hear such empowering stories! Particularly because it will be very easy for some to say things like &quot;well she was just lucky something bad didn&#039;t happen&quot;. Which may be true, but then it makes it seem like all normal births are just lucky - not normal. If everybody who had great births were to tell their stories as loudly as the horror stories, perhaps we would start to see that birth can be great!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a gorgeous story! I hope she keeps telling it loud and proud &#8211; women need to hear such empowering stories! Particularly because it will be very easy for some to say things like &#8220;well she was just lucky something bad didn&#8217;t happen&#8221;. Which may be true, but then it makes it seem like all normal births are just lucky &#8211; not normal. If everybody who had great births were to tell their stories as loudly as the horror stories, perhaps we would start to see that birth can be great!!</p>
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